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Interview with host Carsten Meyer, 18th of October, 2020

Carsten: Hey, hello Carsten here, again from the Healthy Teacher Podcast. Yes, actually, I was supposed to be sitting in the cosy living room of Ingrid Stadtler-Pree in the Salzburger Land. She is my interview partner today, and that's where I actually wanted to do this interview with her. Because actually, I was supposed to take part in the Huna 2nd level workshop: „Deepening Huna knowledge“ this weekend. This seminar, that's what Ingrid would have offered this weekend in the Salzburger Land, but would have, if the current corona situation hadn't upset our plans and the seminar hadn't been postponed due to the current developments in the number of infections.

Instead, I'm sitting at home and we're doing this interview online. And if there's one thing the Corona crisis has taught us, it's maybe to be flexible. And to be flexible in thinking, that's also one of the things that this Hawaiian Huna philosophy , which would have been the subject of this seminar, which this philosophy suggests. I will talk to Ingrid in today's episode of the Healthy Teacher Podcast about: what is Huna exactly, the Hawaiian knowledge that is behind it and above all, of course, what you as a teacher can get out of it. Ingrid received her Master of Science in psychological and social counseling from the University of Krems in Austria. She is also an NLP trainer and runs the coaching practice SunCoaching in Salzburg. There she mainly advises people in the areas of stress management and burnout prevention, and one of her favorite methods is this Hawaiian Huna. Yes, dear Ingrid, first of all, welcome here in the podcast. I am happy that we can do this interview here today.


Ingrid: Yes, I am very happy too, Carsten. Thank you very much for the invitation. And as I said, I am also very sorry that we had to postpone the seminar until 2021. But as I said, we are flexible. „Pono“ in Huna, and so it will be a great seminar in 2021 as well.


Carsten: Yes, I'm looking forward to it, but now for our listeners, what exactly is this Huna and how did you come to offer such seminars in Huna?


Ingrid: Yes, Huna is the holistic, timeless, very effective and practically applicable philosophy of life from ancient Hawai’i or Polynesia. It is a very old knowledge, which can also partly be found in other ancient wisdom teachings, such as Taoism or Buddhism, even in our Christian mysticism. But it’s been handed down to us – in my opinion – most complete and compact in the Huna philosophy. And the Huna teachings are also the basis of Hawaiian shamanism. But you don't have to be a shaman to be able to apply them successfully in your own life. And, yes, these Hawaiian secrets, Huna means "hidden knowledge" or "secret". So for me personally, they are simply the key to love, happiness, health and success. And actually, I became aware of Huna in 2007 through the audio book "The Urban Shaman" by Serge Kahili King and was immediately fascinated. And I decided to take a closer look and delve deeper into it. From 2011 on I had the opportunity to train with Serge King during several longer stays of our family on Hawaii. We were in the lucky position to live in Hawaii for two sabbaticals of half a year each and then several summers, which was an incredible experience for our whole family. And after a personal mentoring process Serge appointed me to be an Alaka'i of his organization "Huna International". Alaka'i means leader or teacher in Hawaiian. With my general background as a consultant, coach and trainer, I have held 7 Huna seminars since 2016. And yes, how valuable this knowledge and the wisdom and techniques of the Huna teachings are, is always shown by the grateful feedback of the participants. This is always my best gift at the end of such a weekend. Unfortunately, not this time. But that’s why we two talk.


Carsten: Exactly. Yes, I have already participated in your Huna seminar in Salzburg. That’s already, I’m not sure, two years ago, three years ago, I think, and so I can very much underline and emphasize that. What you are saying right now, that (the seminar) is really very, very great. Now you have just said, this Huna philosophy, that it’s very old. Several thousand years, that's what they say. What does actually make Huna interesting for us today, or maybe "so interesting" one has to say? Because it is really a very, very exciting subject.


Ingrid: Yes, I think, especially in our current, very fast moving time, today's knowledge often won't be valid anymore tomorrow. And people are getting more and more stressed out by these developments and many other problems. This has an increasing effect on health and psychological problems. But Huna on the other hand, offers timeless, holistic principles and techniques and also an understanding of our actual abilities as human beings with body, mind and soul. We truly are spiritual beings in a human form. And Huna helps us to find ourselves again, our energy and mental strength and our love. Therefore we can overcome challenges more easily and generally live happier.


Carsten: Huna is not very well known in our country, but there is one, yes, one area of Huna, you could say, that has become a bit better known in our country, the Ho'oponopono. You mentioned the word Pono at the very beginning, and this is also contained in this Ho'oponopono, which is perhaps better known. And Pono is now one of the principles on which the Huna philosophy is based, the principles that form a, I'd say, frameset for this philosophy. What exactly are these principles? What is hidden behind them?


Ingrid: Exactly. Yes, well, as I said before, the Huna principles are 7 simple hawaiian words with a very far-reaching and profound meaning. Serge King has translated them into the 7 principles and 14 very important sentences. And of course the exact explanation and how to really apply these principles and sentences would be beyond the scope of this time. That's exactly why I present weekend Huna seminars, and they are already very compact, compared to my training in Hawai’i. But they convey this knowledge in a way so that you can really apply it. Especially because I also provide a detailed handout that makes it even easier to apply it in daily life. But we can go through the principles and the respective translations. So the first principle, which is also one of the most important ones, is "Ike", which means "the world is, what you think it is". And then there is „Kala“..


Carsten: If I may get into this for a moment. My podcast, the Healthy Teacher podcast, is about how we teachers can better deal with stress, with burdens, with challenges in our profession, how we can deal with them in a healthier way. And Huna is a philosophy, which also shows us a way to live in harmony with ourselves and the world, I'd say. How would this first principle, "Ike", you just explained what that is, how would it go together with this topic of stress in our profession for us teachers. That is, in practical terms, what does this principle mean for us as teachers in relation to the stress we experience every day?


Ingrid: Yes, here again, as I said, you can go very, very far. Of course. Maybe the most important thing is to say, "Okay, how do I go into class?" for example. So it makes a difference when I go into a class, whether I see students as problematic or as troublemakers, for example, or whether I see them as children who don't always have it easy, especially in today's world.
And then meet them benevolently in principle, because of "Ike, the world is what you think it is", you bring into life exactly what you think consciously or unconsciously, and through this filter you keep having such experiences. Then you can of course start on the one hand to check your attitude towards students, for example, and really investigate whether you perhaps unconsciously have one or two prejudices against different students or so, and then change that if necessary. That can sometimes be easy and quick and sometimes not. Therefore besides such positive thoughts towards students, I can also pay attention to my inner state, my emotional state, because that is always "half the battle" in everything you do. And if this inner state is based on what we call in Huna, for example  – and then here are two principles again – "Aloha Mana", that is a state and an attitude or a feeling of powerful love and loving power, then you can generally meet the challenges of life, whatever they are, in a better way.
One thing is also important for the teachers, that is the principle "Mana", that means "the power comes from within you", that is all power comes from within. And here we have to see it this way, the teachers have their personal "Mana" on the one hand, that means their personal inner strength, self-confidence, etc.  – everyone has their personal "Mana" – but also "Mana" that is, so to speak, transmitted by the power of their profession. That means a certain power over and responsibility for their students. And if they now exercise this power lovingly, then they have enough positive authority without having to be authoritarian. The children and teenagers then also feel that they are valued and recognized as human beings and that in principle one wants only good for them, but one does not let oneselves be fooled by them and can also set clear boundaries. And both of them, "Aloha" and "Mana," these two principles can be cultivated and strengthened within oneself.


Carsten: That's actually my experience, that if the students respect me as a teacher, and I don't get that respect by pushing through my ideas with all my might and force, but that they simply respect me as a human being. That then it's much easier to guide the students in the classroom even if they move in directions that don’t make much sense. And what I just remembered is that you said that the world is what you think it is and that we create our reality somehow. That always sounds a bit, yes, it takes getting used to for many in our culture, because we simply have a different upbringing and socialization. But there are also studies, for example, where people have actually worked with scientific methods and examined what influence a teacher has on the grades of the children he teaches. Where it has been found that when a teacher enters a class with a mindset that these students do not have good grades in mathematics, research has been done that if the teacher goes there with expectations, the students cannot do it, that the grades, the average grades in the class exans are actually lower compared to the control group, where the teacher enters the classroom with a positive attitude. So there are actually studies that prove this.


Ingrid: Absolutely. I even read somewhere once, I couldn't remember exactly where it was. But that even the first name of the students, like certain first names, for example, influences the teacher. So...


Carsten: Kevin, Kevin's not a good name if the child is...


Ingrid: Or Chantal or so. In any case, yes, that you can somehow deduce a certain social class or something from the first name, and that already has an influence. And that's actually a pity.


Carsten: Yes. But to be free of it, of course, is...


Ingrid: Right, exactly. To check it out and make sure that you're there...


Carsten: You have to become aware of it first, and that brings us back to the Huna philosophy: these principles, if you keep them in mind a little bit, you might just develop a bit more awareness for such things and then you might be able to deal with them differently.


Ingrid: Right.


Carsten: Yes, now we've heard some of the principles. But there are of course more.


Ingrid: Right, the first one was the "Ike". The second one we have: "Kala, there are no limits“. This is also a very exciting principle, because you think "yes, but we meet limits everywhere“. Nowadays everything is getting narrower anyway and everywhere limits are being tightened. So, what is there to this principle? But on a certain level, for example on the level of energy or a spiritual level, there really are no limits anymore. And Huna works on several levels, yes, we also say, in different worlds, you could put it. And there is, on an objective level, in our objective reality, this world, so to speak, where duality works. Light, dark, cold, warm, near, far, etc. that is very clear, there are limits. And those are also, so to speak, limits that we need in order to experience our reality in this world, because if everything were limitless, then we would not be able to have any experience at all.
Therefore it is good that there are creative boundaries, so to speak, to be able to make our experiences here in the world, but we must always be aware, especially in our mind, that we should simply free ourselves from certain limitations or restrictive thought patterns etc. This can already make a lot of difference. That was "Kala".
Then "Makia", also a very, very great principle. "Energy follows attention" and that is really something that can be used very, very well in the sense of: "I concentrate my energy with my focus". And that's why, for example, if I really concentrate on something, I can do it in a very short time. As opposed to: "I disperse my energy by wanting to do five things at once" for example.


Carsten: Yes, there are a whole series of investigations, if I just can go into that one, when it comes to multi-tasking. By the way, I also have done an episode here in the podcast about the right focus and why that is important and why it doesn't really work with this multi-tasking. And that points in the same direction. Well, they really do have a practical impact, these principles.


Ingrid: Absolutely.


Carsten: That you can actually use them and that the use of them makes sense.


Ingrid: Exactly. And the great thing is that it's like, I always say, this knowledge put in a nutshell. Just like that – once you have really internalized it. You have them so well at hand, these principles, because they're just really in a nutshell, you could say, in seven words, then in seven sentences and then in these sub-principles. Exactly, then the next one, that would be "Manawa, now is the moment of power“. That's also a principle that e.g. Eckhart Tolle describes very well in a book, in a whole book, and always comes back to it. It's also the very principle where one says yes, you can really get to your spiritual power in the here and now.


Carsten: Very briefly, maybe for the listeners, if you don't know Eckhart Tolle, he is of German origin, lives in Canada, as far as I know, you could say, a philosopher. And the core of his view of life, his philosophy, is life in the now. And that the suffering, he is not alone (with that viewpoint), buddhism says the same thing, the whole mindfulness teachings, I just had interview partners in the last episodes, who talked about the role and the importance of mindfulness in life. And Eckhart Tolle, he goes in the same direction, with this philosophy. The book by the way, by Eckhart Tolle and also all other information, links and those about Ingrid, your website, all this is of course included in the Shownotes. We put that in there.


Ingrid: Exactly. Yes, and Eckhart Tolle is also one of the current spiritual teachers who are not attached to a certain religion. Yes, and I find it very exciting that one goes away from the „old“ religions a little bit and says "so what is the common ground between these religions and what is this holistic spirituality“? He is part of that.


Carsten: Yes, it's very important, because if you look at the developments in the religions, the problem with many is that the number of members is decreasing, if I look at our church here. And that we simply need a more modern, perhaps, view of the world. Or, I don't want to say it in such a general way, but that many people could perhaps need something like that.


Ingrid: Yes, that some religions perhaps provide too tight a „corset“, how should I say, dogmas or rules or something, and where a bit that which really matters, is missing. And that's what I like, for example, in Huna. It's not a religion. As I said, it's a philosophy of life, which can very well be combined with other religious backgrounds. But it's simple. Because if you live e.g. Aloha, you don't really need many commandments. You don't harm anybody else, if you live the Aloha principle, there we are now at the next (principle): " To love is, to be happy with somebody or something". If you really apply this in depth, you wouldn't harm yourself or anybody else. And actually it's the same as the christian commandment of loving thy neighbour. You can save yourself many other commandments, if you really live that one.


Carsten: That is also in Christianity, is it also said that in the New Testament, I believe, Jesus says to the disciples, or whoever, I don't know, that all the commandments of the Old Testament can in principle be traced back to two commandments, love your neighbor as yourself and...


Ingrid: And God.


Carsten: And, to love God, yes. But this focusing on the essence, actually.


Ingrid: Right.


Carsten: And Aloha, that's another word, that many people know, so when you think of Hawaii, you might have a picture in your mind, this license plate, "The Aloha State", that's something we know, and I have to tell you about it. A few years ago, I had a really weird experience, I was at the other school, the school where I was, before I started at the one where I am now, and I dealt with the whole Huna topic and philosophy very, very intensively, and I also had participated in your seminar, I think that was later, but I also attended a seminar with Serge King at that time and read a lot and so on.
And then one day I went to class, I remember it was a WPU. That means that it was not a class that knew each other or some students didn't know each other. And I'm quite conservative in saying that at the beginning of the lesson we all get up and greet each other, just so that everyone notices that the lesson begins. And then they all got up and I said "Good morning", as I always do. And then they all said "Aloha", as if from one mouth. And I had never talked to them about it in any way. This was also a WPU computer science course. That means, it was also very technical and rational. I never talked to them about anything like that. It wasn't a class either, they weren’t sworn in on that. I was so perplexed afterwards that I asked them how they came to say "Aloha".


Ingrid: Yes?


Carsten: They didn't know. They couldn't tell me. First of all, they didn't know the word, they hadn't discussed it. That's what they said. They didn't know. They were as surprised as I was. It's weird, isn't it?


Ingrid: Yes, you can really see on how many levels that can work.


Carsten: Yes...


Ingrid: Very, very interesting.


Carsten: That gave me quite a, yes, it was a bit of a strange feeling afterwards.


Ingrid: There you go, the Aloha principle is a very powerful principle. Absolutely.


Carsten: Obviously...


Ingrid: So this power of love, which can really heal, which is also a recurring theme in the seminars, we also do exercises, where you work with "Aloha" and more precisely with a technique called "La'a Kea", the Lovelight, where you first energize yourself and then, together focus this energy, for example, on a certain person. This can be someone who is present or someone who is not present at all. But when a group concentrates on a certain person with a positive or healing intention, then it is very, very powerful. We have heard great reports again and again about how this works. And there are also studies and experiments, for example by the American Lynn McTaggart, "The Intention Experiment" or "The Power of 8", where it has been scientifically proven that this (the healing intention) has positive effects. And interestingly enough, not only on the target of the energy flow or the person on whom one focuses, but also because you build up this positive energy in yourself and keep it there in the group for a long time, ten minutes, quarter of an hour. That this also always charges the healers themselves with positive energy or even heals them as well. So that is a very, very exciting thing.
I think a lot of research is needed until people understand it on a larger scale. But it's great that it simply works.


Carsten: Well, maybe that would be something that we could at least try out in our everyday life, working with such techniques in class, perhaps to create a pleasant teaching atmosphere.


Ingrid: Absolutely. To energize yourself first and then to go into the class with a really positive attitude and with a positive feeling. With a smile. I think you start the lesson differently and the lesson goes differently. For sure.


Carsten: Exactly, just briefly on top of that, and that in turn is also important for our experience of stress, because if I had a pleasant class and go out of it, then of course I'm much less stressed. Or ideally not stressed at all or even more exhilarated. That's perhaps a bit less common.


Ingrid: Absolutely.


Carsten: But if I have a strenuous class, then afterwards I'm simply flattened, which means that if we can work with such techniques, if that's a possibility, then it's good for ourselves as well, of course.


Ingrid: Exactly. And you have to look, for example, okay, if I've had an exhausting hour now, despite good preparation or whatever, maybe I can hide somewhere for at least five minutes in the break, go for a quick walk in the yard or maybe even just to the toilet and then take a deep breath and recharge for the next hour anyway. So there are really great and fast techniques how to do that.


Carsten: Could you just maybe tell one of them so that one can imagine it?


Ingrid: Absolutely. There is for example one: one of my favourite tools for immediate relaxation and energizing of body and mind is the Hawaiian Piko-Piko breathing. You know it already, it is one of our basic techniques, but I really highly recommend it. It is a breathing, with which I shift my attention from one body centre – Piko means centre – from one body centre to another. For example from the crown to the navel. But of course there are many variations of this technique.
The basic one is: I inhale with the attention on my crown and exhale with the attention on my navel. And doing that, I stimulate the energy flow, according to the principle "Makia, energy flows where attention goes", and of course I increase the energy and the oxygen-supply of the body and every cell through the deeper breathing. But also this energy flow is stimulated and then I can put the focus from the top of my head to the soles of my feet and have an increased energy flow. It is also important that you don't think of anything else, but that you only swing back and forth with your attention and that you are so mindful and direct the focus so well that you can feel – not just think "crown and navel", but feel " crown and navel". And one does about 10 breaths in such a way, it clears the head, it relaxes and energizes equally. There are of course many other tools, which may take a little longer. Such as guided meditations, journeys into our inner world, which we can use to relax and harmonize, but also to stimulate our self-healing powers.


Carsten: Yes, but I think especially these short techniques are extremely valuable for us teachers. That in a short time we can bring our energy back to normal and have the strength to go into a new lesson or maybe when you come home to find a closure to the school morning at least. The afternoon is filled with other qualities, but that you can also make such a transition and that you have such small techniques for that. I think that's pretty cool for us teachers.


Ingrid: There is one more thing I can think of, I would even combine it. There is a technique called "Shaman bounce". It’s very simple, you just stand upright, stand up straight and bounce up and down on your toes. That is the "Shaman bounce", it loosens, too, it also energizes. But if you e.g. shake it off a bit like this and breathe out short and quick, then you can also really let go a bit of built up stress, which you have maybe built up over the day, over the morning, and then at home maybe really let go and loosen up and bounce on the balls of your feet. I would recommend this as a technique to come home again, shake off everything else. Funny enough, I recently heard a report, that this shaking, shaking yourself or shaking off like this, that is quite common in our mammalian family, very common if geese fight, or dogs or the like.


Carsten: Yeah, I was just gonna say, I have a dog.


Ingrid: Yeah, well, if there was something, they relieve the stress by shaking it off like that. And we can use that, too.


Carsten: Exactly, and there's even something, but I don't remember what it's called. There's a psychologist, I think, who has developed a whole family of techniques around the shaking to release stress. So there are seminars you can do with him. I don't remember what it's called, but it’s exactly this approach to release tensions by shaking. And what you said, with my dog. I know it well, and I've seen it so often, when he's had stress somehow, he shakes once and then it's good again.


Ingrid: Exactly, and I think it's also like that, it's supposed to be all this inner trembling at these seminars. I've also heard that, I think, that the body trembles almost involuntarily and thus reduces even more stress, you have to do certain, yes, some kind of preparation for it. Maybe that's why there are seminars. But I think, a normal shaking out can have an extremly good effect and you wouldn’t need an extra seminar on that.


Carsten: No, no, that's not what I meant either.


Ingrid: I'm just saying, just take five minutes at home and breathe deeply and exhale really strong.
That will certainly work really, really well already in five minutes.


Carsten: Yes, and now I spontaneously remember something: many years ago I did martial arts very intensively, until it didn't work out like this anymore due to injuries. And I also did Aikido, among other things, for a long time. And in the beginning, when warming up and later on during the cool-down, it was always an integral part of the training, shaking arms, shaking legs, tapping and releasing these energies again. That means, that this does not only exist in Huna philosophy, but also in many other cultural areas, that they simply recognized that this shaking is something very meaningful and important.


Ingrid: Absolutely. And it's the simple things that really work, it doesn't have to be complicated. Right.


Carsten: Yes. Where were we with our principles? I believe at "Aloha"?


Ingrid: Exactly, then there is "Mana", all power comes from within". And there we say that all our power and our spiritual power can be found within us. And if you really see it from a spiritual point of view, for example, god or the universe or whatever you want to call the spiritual source, it doesn't only work outside of, but rather through us. So we can draw from our inner source, from our inner power. And yes, in the next principle we're already at "Pono", as you mentionned, „Ho'oponopono“. "Pono" means "Effectiveness is the measure of truth", and it means if something heals, it’s right. Or what works is good. And so Huna is not tied to any dogmas at all, or, you don't have to prove Huna, you just look,  if it works well then do it, yes? And if it doesn't work, be flexible, try something else.


Carsten: Real is that, or reality is, what works. That's what's in the word as well. (Comment: this refers to the word „Wirklichkeit“ and „wirken“ in German- not applicable for the English language)


Ingrid: Right. Exactly. And Ho'oponopono, because you mentioned it, well, "ponopono" means, the repetition is used when something really needs to be emphasized, and in that case "pono" means right. And so Ho'oponopono means, to do something right or do it right again; straighten it out, to make up for something.


Carsten: Yes, Ho'oponopono is one of those, I'd say, family conference systems, I think, originally, which was also very extensive and which had the goal of clearing up such differences of opinion.


Ingrid: Exactly. But of course you can also use it for yourself as a forgiveness ritual if you have something to forgive yourself. But of course you can also forgive others. And there are many different types of Ho'oponopono; the one that I use and also teach or use in individual counseling or, for example, couples coaching, that's the form that Serge King has developed, it's called "Kupono". But as I said, that's of course also beyond the scope...


Carsten: Yeah, right.


Ingrid: ...of this interview...


Carsten: It's always a little shorter.


Ingrid: It's more about, what can the teachers do against the stress?


Carsten: Yes, but to come back to the Ho'oponopono again, it might be interesting for teachers as well. We probably have different classes in the younger age groups, depending on each federal state, but here in Hesse (Germany) there is usually one class-hour per week, where many teachers also hold a kind of class conference, for example to settle disputes between the students. And maybe this Ho'oponopono approach is also interesting to try out parts of it in a class conference, where it's basically exactly what Ho'oponopono wants to do, namely to get rid of any conflicts and to ensure a harmonious cooperation.


Ingrid: Exactly.Yes, you can use for example one of the tools that Serge King works with in Kupono. Effectively, it's a mediation process, you can really call it that, the Kupono. And one tool is a talking stick, for example, a talking symbol, which then always the coupon mediator, that’s the one who, in this case it would then be the teacher, who leads the process, who introduces the tool. He would say, „the one who holds the stick or the pen or whatever, is the only one, who is talking“. And it is always only spoken to the Kupono mediator. So each student only speaks to the teacher and does not, accuse each other, for example. And it is also the rule from the outset that you, that everyone has to talk relatively objective and with little emotion, yes, but still say what is the matter and what are the concerns and so on. And there are also different rules, there are different phases, to this Kupono, of course, and I think there is something on Serge King's website, you can also read about it in one of his books. I think in "Instant Healing, Now" he dedicates a whole chapter to the Kupono process and it would certainly be a suitable tool for conflicts in the classroom.


Carsten: We will definitely link to it. I have also done this in the past, when I was in classes with a talking stick or a ball that we just had, which we then took. It is not always easy, because the children often do not have this discipline yet. And if it is about injustice or they feel treated unfairly when it comes to it, then you have to take care that everyone calms down again in between. But to work with such techniques in the first place, even if it does not work right away or does not work properly, to work with it in the first place, I think, is a real start and goes in the right direction.


Ingrid: Exactly. And absolutely, in between as well, for example, when the emotions go up again, immediately calm down everyone again, so to speak, and do a round of Piko-Piko, for example.


Carsten: Or something like that...


Ingrid: That would be, for example, a technique to calm down again and then be able to continue more quietly, yes, of course you can combine these techniques as you need to.


Carsten: Cool. Yeah, now we've already got, keyword stress, to experience stress, for us teachers it's always a point like I said. How does Huna actually see stress? What is the view from the Huna philosophy on this topic?


Ingrid: So, in general we can say that health in the Huna teaching is a state of harmonious energy flow. And you can imagine it like a wave movement. A harmonious cooperation of tension and relaxation. But if, for example, high mental or physical or emotional tension – which we call stress – is followed by sufficient relaxation, then it is no problem for us. Body and mind can regenerate and stay healthy.


Carsten: That means, a certain amount of stress, that’s quite normal and we need it.


Ingrid: Exactly. And then, however, if this tension remains at a very high level for a longer period of time, we experience chronic stress, so to speak, in the current modern diction. And then this harmonic wave movement is missing. Then we have a high state of tension, and this leads to disharmony and energy restrictions. And this can lead to serious physical and psychological illnesses such as the burnout syndrome in the long term.


Carsten: I think this picture with the wave is totally fascinating, because when you think of stress, you often think "yes, I don't want stress" and "just no stress" and so on. But Huna says stress is definitely important, that means, this alternation of tension and relaxation and also having friction in life, that's what I need, because otherwise I have no movement. Of course, we all know that. I'm a physics teacher and there is friction and movement, these are topics I also deal with in class. And if I have no friction, then I can't move, because I can't push off myself. And if I'm walking on black ice in winter, where I have no friction, no tension, no relaxation, then I can't move. And it's the same in life. We need this, this alternation of tension and relaxation, in order to produce any movement at all, in order to move forward. And only when there is too much –  if I now stay in this picture of the wave – I find it totally fascinating, when a wave builds up and then breaks down again and goes up and down, then I have this harmonic movement. But if this gets too much, the wave breaks at some point. And when a wave breaks, then there is also damage to the coast, for example, when the waves don't flow in and out so smoothly during the storm tide. And so it is perhaps also in life.


Ingrid: Exactly. Or, I use that as a motto in my stress management workshops: "you can't stop the waves, but you can learn to surf". So to speak: you can't always influence the waves, but you can learn how to surf them. And the big waves you just have to surf differently than small ones etc. or you just have to watch out "oh, it's breaking", and then you have to make sure that you get out of the wave, for example. Well, and that's what's exciting about Huna, too, for example work-life balance: that you have to have your life in balance. But in Huna we don't talk so much about balance, but rather about harmony in the sense of this wave movement, because balance in the sense of equilibrium, it would be nice if we said, for example balance of work, leisure time and sleep in the sense of eight hours of work, eight hours of leisure time, eight hours of sleep, would be great. But it's not always very realistic. Especially if you want to juggle family and career, without having to miss out on your own, these eight hours of free time are just  –  not working for me in daily life. And that's where it's important to be creative and, for example, to create a balance for a strenuous working day, which may not necessarily be the same in terms of quantity and which creates a balance, but which is at least qualitatively suitable for harmonizing our energies again.


Carsten: I've never understood work-life-balance under this aspect, that all areas have to have the same time, but rather that, as you just said, have a balance in terms of quality. And if I overshoot the mark in one direction, no problem. But then I have to make sure that I overshoot the mark in the other area.


Ingrid: But purely from the word and from the picture you have, you imagine balance to be a bit more like this scale. And that it always has to be the same, somewhere on one side and the other. And this wave, that is more dynamic and you can also imagine it that way, for example, if you sing a piece of music in a choir, for example, in balance it would be, if somehow all have the same tone and perhaps all sing „OM“, but it will results in a harmony, if soprano, alto, bass and tenor, sing completely different, but beautiful melodies of their own, and somehow it all fits together harmoniously, yes?


Carsten: Yes.


Ingrid: Harmony, it's somehow much more alive and somehow it accommodates much more than the word balance. It's somehow a bit broader than that, at least I think. But let's stick to this quantitative, qualitative balance. I mean, it's not necessarily the qualitative balance that you need after a hard day at work, where you might have been annoyed a lot, and you still have a high adrenaline level  – that you sit in front of the TV and watch an action movie, which then boosts your adrenaline level even more. And then you wonder why you can't sleep, for example. Then it depends on having this qualitative balance, always having the focus in the here and now, with all your senses and just organizing for yourself what's good for you now. In my opinion, it's always better to get rid of a high adrenaline level in a kind of workout. So be it jogging, walking or any other sport. Or if you're really looking for relaxation, then a full bath, mini meditations or a yoga session. But everything, whatever we do, using all our senses. To be really and completely in the here and now, again "Manawa". And then I can bring myself into harmony more quickly than when I am elsewhere with my thoughts, for example. This, the focus on one’s own activity in the here and now, without multitasking and wanting to do five things at the same time and therefore fokus one’s own energy, we have learned that in the sense of "Makia", instead of dispersing it. That would also be the recipe how to better maintain your energy level during work.


Carsten: Yes, that would also have been a question of mine. How can I or how can Huna help that I just don't come home from school after a busy morning completely done and totally exhausted? And now you say that if I manage to bring my focus back to the here and now during the morning, then that would help.


Ingrid: To be there at full energy in what I do, so to speak, yes. That is, as I said, this combination of the Huna principles "Makia" and "Manawa". So "Energy flows where attention goes" and "Now is the moment of power". And practically this simply means, that you focus on one thing in the here and now and concentrate your energy on it. And in that way you are most productive. That is as well what we call the flow-state, where we are very productive, often very creative and where we forget the time, when work really is fun. And I also think to myself, for example, to be on the student with your attention, or on the one who’s turn it is at the moment or really with the (whole) class. Of course it is not easy, depending on how many students there are, to be there with the attention. But that is one of the recipes, how you can be more content with the activity that you are currently doing, if you are also there with your attention.


Carsten: It's not so simple. Well, I... while you were telling me this, I was thinking about how it is sometimes at school. Then you have an extreme noise level or something, for example, that stresses me totally out, where I also notice that afterwards my energy level has dropped five steps down, is, when chairs fall down. At the end of the lesson the students,  put the chairs up (on the desks), so that the cleaning staff there can also clean the floor. And when a chair falls down, that's so bad, that's such a noise. Then I flinch every time and then notice how I get totally stressed. Do you have something for...


Ingrid: More noise is certainly generally a stress factor, which is really just a stressor from outside, which one has to acknowledge as such. Yes, this is not a small thing. It's a stressor from outside, with which you as a teacher really have to deal with, which not everyone can handle well. Simply, I just think, depending on how sensitive you are. Some are more sensitive to noise and some less. But that you maybe also look at this (noise problem) in class from time to time. And if it's just a breathing exercise and even if the students laugh. But that you somehow get this noise level down or maybe with a singing bowl or whatever. Whichever tool is used for that... or maybe let everyone scream at the same time and then there's peace and quiet afterwards. Something like that, in the sense of progressive muscle relaxation. There, you also do that, you tense up the muscles and then relax. Maybe you can say: „It's too loud, everybody: scream once!“


Carsten: I'd rather not.


Ingrid: And meanwhile you cover your ears.


Carsten: And so need the colleagues around us. But maybe this noise...


Ingrid: Or when everyone's humming, something...


Carsten: We are not allowed to do that anymore, Corona conditions, everything is prohibited...


Ingrid: But with your mouth closed, it should work.

Carsten: Hum. That could be it, maybe...


Ingrid: Yes, not singing, but humming, because that also makes a whole good vibration in oneself. It is also, for example, a healing technique: to hum.


Carsten: Yes.


Ingrid: You can try it. That they close their mouths and hum.


Carsten: Yeah, maybe a good oneYes, the noise, that is maybe one thing. You just said that when the wave breaks, you have to see that you get out of the wave. And there are some stressors, you have to accept that they will appear, but then you can go back to what you just said, that you try to create a balance, a qualitative...


Ingrid: Go into silence, that's right.


Carsten: And then, quite deliberately...


Ingrid: Into silence, into calm. Exactly. Out in nature. You might walk your dog.


Carsten: Exactly, I'm out there every day anyway and I just had an interview with Sandra Knümann two weeks ago and she is a coach who specializes in, for example, mindfulness-based natural therapy and does exactly that with people in nature, coming to oneself, coming into the here and now, perceiving all the senses etc., in order to come down again.


Ingrid: Yes, right.


Carsten: Well great, we've learned a lot about the Huna Philosophy. I find the whole thing really super fascinating. And I think that as teachers we can take some really interesting thoughts out if it. I always do a lightning round at the end. If I could just go with you and see what comes out. Okay. Your life motto?


Ingrid: Yes, I don't let myself be limited to one motto in the sense of "there are no limits". I have several, because life is very diverse. So an important one, that might have led me to Huna and especially to the Aloha spirit of applied love is this one:  it goes "I love life and life loves me". But there is also my stress management motto, that is, I mentioned it already: "You can't stop the waves, but you can learn to surf". And then there is one for flexibility or applied "Pono": that goes "Love it, change it or leave it". And then my general Huna motto is "Bless the presence, trust yourself and expect the best".


Carsten: A nice thought that one can also have several life motti, I think one must say, for the different areas.


Ingrid: Yes, I just can't have only one!


Carsten: Yes, I think it's a great  thought, that one just can have different, I'm gonna say motti, one has to put it, for several areas. I think it's a good thought. Yes, fine. Your number one relaxation tip?


Ingrid: Yes, there is only one thing: breathing. And for breathing, all kinds of techniques. Well, there is our Piko-Piko breathing, but then there is also what I got to know in Yoga, which brings me incredible relaxation and also energy. It is called full Yogic breathing. It is also best done lying down, and you can do it before falling asleep as well.


Carsten: Can you describe it briefly?


Ingrid: Yes, in principle you breathe in, I prefer to do it lying down, but I think it also works while sitting, effectively, you breathe in and first of all, as you breathe in, you fill your abdomen and then your chest, and then you hold it, your breath, for a while, and then you let it flow out again, from top to bottom. So you breathe in, so to speak, you fill yourself from bottom to top, with breath, with air and then you empty yourself again from top to bottom. And then there are variants to this (technique). But this inhalation, holding it briefly and then exhaling again, you can also do one, called straw breathing, i.e. pursing your lips and then exhaling again very slowly, so that you hold the air in as long as possible and then exhaling as slowly and fully as possible. That is extremely relaxing and also energizing. Yes, so that's my relaxation tip number one. In addition, what I find very pleasant is this, not from Huna, but as I said, Huna is everything that works. Therefore the progressive muscle relaxation for example, followed by such a yogic full breathing. With that you are in top shape again in 10 minutes.

Carsten: And this breathing (technique) you can also do it quickly in between during the morning (classes), which is why it is also very good.


Ingrid: Time and again, right.


Carsten: Great. Your number one motivational tip?


Ingrid: My no.1 motivational tip. Yes, that's actually "Do what you love or love what you do". So the best thing is to do what you like to do. But if that's not possible, it's important that you like what you're doing at least to some extent. And I always say the best thing is to do it with enthusiasm or pleasure. But if that's not possible, at least with acceptance. Because if you also put up resistance to what you have to or should or simply do, then it is even more difficult and you rob yourself of the necessary energy to do exactly this task through this resistance to against it. And then you fulfil the task even worse,.


Carsten: That's perhaps another great tip for dealing better with stress, that you simply try to recognize the positive sides of what you are doing and to keep your focus on it.


Ingrid: Exactly. I can give you a little example of that. Well, it's really very simple and everybody can understand that and you can apply that to everything you have to do. But I say for example, ok, I don't like cleaning. I admit, I don't like cleaning and I have a fundamental resistance to it. But if I know ok, there’s no choice now and I still have to do it, I mean, I admit I have a maid for that, but there are some things you still have to do by yourself. And so first of all I acknowledge, ok, I'm not happy about it now, but I do it anyway. I take a deep breath, let go of this resistance and try to make it fun in some way for me. First with the feeling, ok, after having cleaned it's nice and tidy. Or, I just want it to be clean now. Or I play some great music to it, for example. The opera Carmen or some cool rock music, that works great when cleaning. It's really fun and then it’ll be done faster, too. Acknowledging this resistance and saying that it doesn't help me at all to have a resistance against it, but I am also back in the here and now and enjoy this activity. For example, when cleaning out the dishwasher, you can say to yourself, "Great that I own a dishwasher, I don't have to do the dishes by hand", yes?


Carsten: Yes, looking on the bright side...


Ingrid: To be grateful for having this in the first place.


Carsten: Yes, by the way, I have (heard) that right now with Jakob Drachenberg, he is one of those stress management trainers and that was exactly the technique he described somewhere. He says, to think about what I can be thankful for in the past that I can have this stress today.


Ingrid: Yes, that's good too.


Carsten: So, that is, if I have to empty my dishwasher and this is stressing me right now, then I can be thankful that I have a house or an apartment, which not everyone has, that I have a dishwasher, that I am able to empty it myself, and so on. And then I also look for the positive things. And one thing has just came to my mind: I always had such extreme stress when I drove to school in the morning and then I had some cars in front of me that drove very, very slowly and on the route where I drive there are a lot of them. It is a regular country road, it allows 100 km/h. And many people drive at 60-65 km/h, maybe even 70. But then it takes time, the driving. And that always annoyed me so much and I thought, yes, which positive things can I find about the fact that I always drive to school in the morning under such pressure. But then I didn't find anything. And then I did the following: I said, every time I have someone like that in front of me, I get a point. And if I got ten points together, I'd buy myself something nice.


Ingrid: Very good.


Carsten: And that was really exciting, because I actually only came up to, I don't know, 6 or 7 points. And I don't know now, either it didn't bother me after that and I didn't notice it or it wasn't there anymore. In any case, I drove to school in the morning in a normal and relaxed way and they just weren't there anymore, either, as I said, they weren't there for me or they really weren't there anymore. I don't know.


Ingrid: Great technique! You could have even paid yourself a compliment for every car that you could tolerate driving so slowly in front of you: "Oh, Carsten, you're really great that you can stand it so very calmly driving behind that one!“ and praising yourself for it.


Carsten: Also a nice technique. But I can't try all that now, because they're gone now. All right. So, we were in the lightning round. Now, let me see, we had the productivity tip, you just mentioned. No, we were already at the motivation tip. Your number one energy booster?


Ingrid: Yes, there are several of them also, depending on the situation. Or, by simply asking myself "What do I need right now? What’s exactly now good for me?" And that can be a breathing exercise or just drinking water. We underestimate how little we usually drink and how much that would help us against a slight headache or general discomfort. So drinking pure water is great. Or eating a fruit or nuts, a little power nap, going for a walk or just listening to your favourite music, just one song, and it lifts the mood again.


Carsten: Yes, I think music is also a very important point.


Ingrid: Absolutely. But if I have to decide on one thing again and or have very little time again, for an energy booster, it is again conscious breathing. Best is to open the window and take a deep breath. And drink some water.


Carsten: Great. Which book are you reading now?


Ingrid: I'm reading the "Intention Experiment" by Lynne McTaggart and as an audio book I've just got Neale Donald Walsch, the „Conversations with God“.

Carsten: Okay, let's link both in the shownotes so you, the listener, can take another look. Okay. You're a self-employed coach with your coaching practice. What's your top Internet tool for better self-management? If you have one.


Ingrid: Yes, if it's supposed to be an internet tool, then it's my google calendar. I have all my appointments there and also my various To-Dos, which I put there and the great thing about it is, that it – first of all – synchronizes itself, i.e. with my computer and my mobile phone, so that everything is always up to date. That's why I always have it with me and it's accurate. And I also have my husband's calendar and also the important appointments of the children on it. That’s super clearly managable and compact and up to date and that makes the daily self- and family management much easier.


Carsten: Yes.


Ingrid: That really helps. But if it's not supposed to be digital, for example, my analog tip would be regular post-its. I have them next to my bed for ideas or To-Dos for the next day or as a shopping list. These are my two self-management tools.


Carsten: Okay, yes, what just comes to my mind, I'll go back to the very beginning: the seminar where we actually wanted to be this weekend is the Huna 2 seminar. This leads to the assumption that there is or has been a Huna 1 seminar. Are there any plans to offer a Huna seminar for someone who has no experience there now, in the near future?


Ingrid: Yes, I have them on my homepage with the exact dates anyway. But there will be Huna 1 seminars again next year. One in April in Upper Austria in the Castle of Puchberg and one in the Castle of Goldegg, again in October, in Salzburg. And there is even interest in Graz, that I will be invited there, to the so called Castle School in Graz, maybe to also offer the Huna seminars there. Because they do Lomi Lomi trainings etc., that is also exciting.


Carsten: Lomi Lomi, for the listeners who do not know, is what?


Ingrid: Lomi Lomi Nui is the Hawaiian massage.


Carsten: Okay, we also link to the seminars directly in the Shownotes, whoever is interested can have a look there again. Okay, then we will come to the end. Maybe one more, you have a lot of experience as a coach and as a Huna expert anyway, what else would you like to share with the teachers based on this experience?

Ingrid: Yes, my favorite principle and the corollary to it. So here's the corollary of the Aloha principle: it means „love increases as judgment decreases“. Or to put it another way, and even a bit more strongly: "Criticism kills love, compliments and recognition strengthens it".


Carsten: Of course it's great for us as teachers, where we are now professionally forced to constantly judge people.


Ingrid: Exactly. I have an exercise in my seminars where you can really prove with a simple muscle test that criticism robs us of energy and weakens us. And that's independent of whether we criticize ourselves – and we are also very critical from time to time in our self-talk with ourselves – or we criticize others or are criticized by others. That weakens everyone, the one who criticizes and who is being criticized. That can be even tested kinesiologically. And if we are criticized, for example, we tend to go into resistance out of self-protection. That's our protection, so that the criticism can’t affect us. But that also weakens us again. And not to mention, learning works better in a positive climate.


Carsten: Absolutely.


Ingrid: And that's why it's really important that when we want to teach something and generally have a good relationship with the students, we really praise and acknowledge and encourage and value them much more. And use criticism really sparingly, but also nevertheless, if we have to apply it then, we should also apply it appreciatively or constructively. So that the students can accept it.


Carsten: And to ourselves as well.


Ingrid: Oh, yes.


Carsten: And I had just now in the last interview with Nina Lorsbach, who is at the University in Gießen and is doing her master's thesis there, and they have a project, "Going easy on teachers" means that, it's about reducing the stress experience for teachers, and they provide a series of techniques for this, which are also psychologically evaluated and scientifically confirmed that they work, and one of them is called "the inner friend". It's about the fact that you think, if you have something that disturbs you about yourself, if a good friend did that, how would you react to it? How would you perhaps address it? In which tone of voice would you speak to him? And that's exactly how you should speak to yourself. And that's exactly what you just said.


Ingrid: Exactly. So really, this technique is one to one, you could say it's a Huna technique. And maybe you could also call it that way, and that's a new trend in the USA, too, so first of all gratitude in one way or another, and then you could also call it self-compassion. To have compassion for others is actually easy for us. But to show exactly this compassion to ourselves, just as if we were our best friend.


Carsten: Yes, exactly, and that leads me quite cool to the next question, namely: Which three tips would you give your 20-year-old self for life and why exactly these?


Ingrid: Yes, that's a very exciting question. My 20-year-old me? I would say, as tip number one, that when I chose my career, I could have paid more attention to myself and my interests and my intuition. Because then my detour of 15 years in another profession would perhaps not have been necessary and I would perhaps have engaged working with people right away. With psychology and counselling and so on.


Carsten: What other job did you have before?


Ingrid: I used to work at the Revenue Office and I dealt with taxes and I had a lot of trainees there, I even taught taxes etc. And, yes, I enjoyed everything around that, because it had to do with people, and had to do with teaching and so on, but the taxes themselves, that was not exactly it, not holistic and not timeless.


Carsten: Timeless, yes somehow, we will always pay them (the taxes).


Ingrid: On the one hand, but every new tax reform didn’t make sense for me. It is just no holistic as the Huna principles, I must say. Yes, that brings us to the second tip, to deal with Huna or a holistic spirituality right away. In my opinion, the earlier, the better, because that way, the really important questions in life can be answered, and we already have them at the age of 20.


Carsten: And especially at 20.


Ingrid: Exactly, and that's why I encourage my children, for example, as soon as they show interest of their own accord, to participate in such a Huna seminar. So I have even thought about offering Huna extra for, yes, not necessarily pubescent children, but at least from the age of 20, i.e. teenagers or young adults.


Carsten: I think that would be interesting for younger people, too. Well, I have the experience that as soon as we are in class and in physics, I have the possibility to go into this philosophy a little bit at a time, because there is, I would say, there is of course classical school physics, which is perhaps not always that exciting, but there is also, when it comes to theoretical physics and the nature of space and time etc., you are quickly into philosophy and they have a burning interested in it. So no matter whether it is the 6th, 7th, 6th grade – we don't have physics in those grades – but no matter whether it is the 7th, 8th, 9th or 10th, they all find it mega exciting when you talk about what is time, what is space and what I find fascinating myself again and again, is that there are many parallels when you go from physics into such philosophies such as the Huna philosophy.


Ingrid: Exactly, absolutely, I think that modern quantum physics, confirms our old Huna teachings, so to speak. Well, that's what I wrote in my master thesis, which I also wrote about the Dynamind Technique, one of the techniques from the Huna doctrine, so I tried to apply all the Huna principles and find them in our modern world, and I found a lot there, and quantum physics, in my opinion, confirms these questions and principles very well.


Carsten: Yes, I agree. As a physics teacher.


Ingrid: Great.


Carsten: Good. I think we have two tips now. The third is still missing.


Ingrid: Yes, exactly, the third one. Yes, there’s again Aloha. But you shouldn't look for love in, or I shouldn't have looked for love on the outside. It's quite clear that as a teenager etc. you are after this, you strive for this classical romantic love, which we always see in Hollywood movies. But actually you should look for it first in yourself, because in the end no partner, no job, no child, nothing can make us happy in the long run, if we can't make ourselves happy. And this Aloha-spirit, this applied love, is the most simple and at the same time best tool for it. Yes, it's not always easy to live, but it's simple and therefore all the more satisfying and meaningful. And there is a link on my website to an article, which highlights exactly this Aloha-spirit and the techniques, how you can implement it in everyday life. And that we can develop Aloha always, more and more within ourselves.


Carsten: Can you just tell us the website again, for the listeners?


Ingrid: Right, that's Like the sun,


Carsten: Of course we’ll link to it, too. Great. If you have any other offers for our listeners or any tips, any tools, anything we haven't mentioned yet, then you are welcome to say so at the end, now that we’ve come to the end.


Ingrid: Right, I'd love to. Yes, as I said, I have a newsletter on my website, it comes as a popup box. You can subscribe to it. It's sent out only four times a year and it's really quite a high quality newsletter with good articles and then sometimes there are free downloads, like this one "La'a Kea" - love light meditation, which you can do in bed in the morning. You can download it for free, it's part of an old newsletter and you can find it again if you go to the website and at the bottom of the menu bar under „publications“.
There you'll find all the newsletters and I think that one is called "How to start a happy day" and there's this love light meditation in it. Yes, then of course there are the new Huna seminars again. Probably three next year, two (Huna-) ones, one (Huna-) two, which are also always on the website under news. It's also great to just look into This is the website of Huna International and Serge Kahili King. There are a lot of free articles and tools like the Aloha-Spirit, one of the techniques I mentioned, in German, English, several languages also for download. So there are always current articles and very interesting things on it. Yes and otherwise stay tuned! I think the most important thing with Huna is to practice it yourself.


Carsten: Yes, like everything else in life. no matter if it's stress management or Huna philosophy or mindfulness. You just have to practise it and do it. I read a very interesting book the other day, there will be an episode about it, or maybe even before the interview is published here, where it's exactly about how to get into the implementation, how can I bring all the good ideas I have, which are all around me, to the street, so to speak, the whole thing? And there's a concept, a strategy, it's called "mini habits". I started implementing it a few months ago. It's totally fascinating and that's exactly what it will be about.


Ingrid: Great, exactly. I call them certain "Healthy Habits". And the smaller they are, the more practical, probably?


Carsten: Yes, the smaller the hurdle is, so to speak, the easier it is for us to do it, of course, and because it's so easy, you usually end up doing more of it. And I have started to do this for various habits that I want to establish in my life, so to speak, and meditate, for example. For years, for decades, I can almost say that I have tried to meditate regularly because I am simply convinced that it makes sense and does us good.
And there have been enough studies that show that if you do it regularly, neurophysiologically, something in the brain changes. But I still didn't succeed. And now with these Mini Habits I have it, I have seen 87 consecutive days today. I never managed that before, so it really works.


Ingrid: Absolutely, great!


Carsten: So as I said, there will be an episode about it, too. If you, dear listener, find this interesting, then listen to it again. Yes, dear Ingrid, I think this brings us to the end of this really great interview. Thank you very, very much!


Ingrid: Yes, it was also very nice to meet you.

Carsten: Yeah, well, I was really excited.

Ingrid: That we at least heard each other like that, when we haven't really seen each other, this time.

Carsten: Yes, what a shame. But, as they say, postponed is not cancelled.

Ingrid: Right, right.

Carsten: Super, dear Ingrid! Then again, thank you very, very much!

Ingrid: Thanks a lot. All the best to you and your listeners.

Carsten: See you, ciao!

Ingrid: Ciao!





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Today Ingrid Stadler-Pree is my guest on the Healthy Teacher podcast. Ingrid is an NLP trainer with her own coaching practice in Salzburg, where she specializes in stress management.

Ingrid is also an Alaka'í (teacher) at Huna & Aloha International, the Hawaiian organization of Dr. Serge Kahili King with the goal of sharing the Hawaiian Huna philosophy and Aloha spirit with the world.

In today's episode I will talk with Ingrid about what exactly this Huna is about, which principles this fascinating philosophy of life follows, and how the techniques and views of Huna can help you in your daily work as a teacher.


About the person:

"It is my fulfilling purpose and privilege to accompany people on their way to more success and happiness in an encouraging and mindful way.“  

Ingrid Stadtler-Pree, MSc, has been working in her own practice as a counsellor, coach and trainer in Salzburg, Austria since 2008.

She is married and has 3 children aged 18, 16 and 12.

With her rich experience and knowledge, the combination of academic and holistic education and training and the special variety of methods of her brand "SunCoaching" she supports individuals and groups in the areas of "Life, Happiness & Success".

In the field of training, she specializes in stress management & personal well-being as well as the Hawaiian Huna philosophy and its practical implementation in daily life.

She currently offers her seminars (in German and English) at the locations Goldegg Castle in Salzburg and Puchberg Castle in Upper Austria as well as in-house trainings.

She also offers coaching & consulting via Skype, especially for her international clients.

Her power sources are her family, friends, travelling (especially to her "2nd home" Hawai'i), sports and exercise in nature and her variety of practical techniques for relaxation & recharging her batteries in everyday life.



  • Master of Science in Counseling (University of Krems)

  • Academic Trainer (J.Kepler University, Linz)

  • Alaka’i* of Huna & Aloha International (Dr. Serge Kahili King)
    * Hawaiian for: leader and teacher

  • NLP Master-Practitioner and systemic NLP-Trainer (DVNLP)

  • Life-Coach & Counselling Diploma (Institut for systemic NLP, Helga Obermair)

  • Further training in positive psychology (Science of Happiness, UC Berkely)

  • Salutovisorin® (ÖGL); wingwave®-Coach (ECA)

  • Expert for Stress Management & Burnout-Prevention (CLS)


Website of Ingrid:

Termine Huna 1 und Huna 2 – Seminare

Ingrid’s book recommendations: 

Neale Donald Walsch: Conversations With God: An Uncommon Dialogue (englische Ausgabe)

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Links from the show:




[1] Word repetitions, filler words, interjections, pauses and comprehension signals are largely not transcribed and grammatical reformulations are made for better understanding

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